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May 13, 2008

Illegals breaking the law?

Filed under: China Law — Tags: , , — china @ 7:33 pm
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Here is what I don’t understand. There is all this outcry about how illegals broke the law, and how they should be punished for it. What I don’t understand is why people don’t realize is that everybody if put in the right circumstance WILL BREAK THE LAW. For example if you couldn’t provide enough food to fill your kids bellies, you will steal. If you couldn’t even hope that your kids could get a better life, you will do whatever you could to change that reality.

I’m not trying to make excuses for them, but I think people are so angry at change that they’ve stopped being rational.

You can’t draw a line in the sand and say on one side is opportunity and on the other is hopelessness and expect that people won’t try to cross. The great wall of china couldn’t keep out 12th century mongols…the great wall of mexico won’t keep out 21st century mexicans.
It’s a reality not just an excuse. I realize they broke the law, but that law stood in the way of hope. In the end of the day, if I was born in a Mexican or Central American village, I’d do everything I could to get here.
Like I’ve said I recognize they broke the law, the problem is we are unjustly demonizing these people.

I don’t think there is a large amount of racisim. I do think it a general fear of change. Psychologically people rather things stay the same, the way they are comfortable with. Things have been changing pretty quickly the last couple of years, and immigrants (as they have throughout our history) are easy scapgoats.
Also from a purely darwinian economic point of view, these are the people we should want MOST. It be nice if they were more highly educated, but these are the most industrious, the risk takers, the ones who will work hardest to get ahead of their respective countries. Food for thought.
What I really think would be the best solution is something close to the senate bill. Tighten up the boarder and punish workers of illegals in a similiar way as the house proposes. Provide a guest worker program. Guest worker program is by state, each state determining how many workers they need for a 3 year period. Those workers pay taxes, must establish a physical address, and stable employment. Those looking to hire these workers would advertise as such so that people may have work quickly after entering. A certain number of day labors would also be allowed. After the 3-years are up they would have to reapply, whether from the US or their home country. Preference is given to those who have already “served” more terms. Those who have served 4 terms or more would be given a legal residency option for spouse and any children, as long as all members have stayed out of legal trouble. Also give credit to those who have been here as illegals equal to the time they’ve been here.
To: fl0wergir1_usa…now you are just being dumb. There are different level of crime based off what you did and intent. For example there is involuntary manslaughter, manslaughter, murder 2, and murder 1. Each is a crime, but punished very differently based off intent. These people have good reason to have done what they have done. That’s worth something.

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July 11, 2007

Mexicans want to bypass the immigrations laws. Is this fair to other races like Chinese, French, etc?

Filed under: China Law — Tags: , — china @ 7:30 pm
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Other races have to immigrate legally. Why do Mexicans think they are better then everyone else? Not all Mexicans, just the ones bitching about everything.

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